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Throw us a bone here, please. So at least for a few years i'll be a foreigner who has a rental income generated in germany, still living in Italy.
Non-residents not living in Germany with income in Germany such as property let are subject to limited income tax liability. They could only deduct expenses which relates to the income such as renovating the appartement and have no basic tax allowence.
So for to the income expenses deducted the amount of 7. Note that i also called the tax department in munich but the employ answered that he didn't know what to say and sent me back to the German Embassy in Italy.
Posted 9 Dec If you can afford to purchase superflious property in another country, can't you afford an accountant? But you're absolutely right, in point of fact, i've yet asked for an accountant to the german real estate agent, who couldn't help.
Obviously any one who payed the information whatever it is is not inclined to share it, like we don't share our cars and i can relate.
But German tax system is about the worst in the world, a true maze. So, best idea is really to let a tax advisor help you who is deep into double taxation issues A number of these are advertising on Toytown, I can - because a lot of my clients use him and are very satisfied - recommend Thomas Zitzelsberger from ExPatTax.
I would assume that at first the German tax authorities would withhold a certain amount of tax and then you'll either get some back or have to pay some more in Italy, depending on the difference in tax rates between the two countries I contacted a professional foreign taxation studio via email and they answer that the taxation on the rental income for a foreigner, non resident, EU citizen will be exactly the one calculated via the.
Then you have to deduct expenses don't know what kind expense you can deduct and depreciation which is: As soon as i get the results, i'll post here, they may be useful to everybody.
I don't think i'm violating any professional secret cause every taxable situation is different and varies from an year to another.
Posted 15 Dec I'm not a tax advisor. In Germany only tax advisors Steuerberater are allowed to give tax advice. So double check everything with a professional.
The tax department is not allowed to give out tax advice. The embassy isn't the right place to ask either. For all other kinds of income you or your tax advisor if you employ one have to fill in tax forms at the end of every year until May 31st for the preceding year stating your income and do an income tax return by either submitting these forms them electronically or in paper form or a combination of both to the German tax department Finanzamt.
See here for a description of electronic submission via the Elster software. I advise you to do it in paper form, because the tax department will want to see paper proof for everything , including the purchase contract done at the notary and the rental contract.
You can give the German tax department the permission to take the tax they calculate after processing your tax forms directly from your German bank account.
This is called "Einzugsermächtigung". That way you will never be late with a tax payment. Don't forget to make a copy of everything including your filled in, signed tax forms before you send it to the tax department by snail mail.
Since you will have rental income in Munich, that will probably be, depending on what the first letter of your surname:.
This is the general form everybody has to fill in, with your name, address, bank account details. How to fill in the Mantelbogen form ESt 1 C.
Each year the company administrating the apartment building Hausverwaltung will send you a "Hausgeldabrechnung" with an overview of what the heat, water, repairs cost in that year.
They will also write in there which costs you can oblige your tenant to pay heat, water, maintenace of lift, Normally the tenant will pay an advance on these "Nebenkosten" utility costs to you every month together with his "cold rent".
Add up all these utility cost payments your tenant made to you that year, subtract the reimbursements you made to him when he overpaid you on utilities and write the total into field Now the calculation of the "Pure building price" is a bit complicated, but bear with me.
So how does the ta department how much of the price you paid was for the ground and how much for the building standing on it?
You can find out this Bodenrichtwert by phoning the Finanzamt and asking them for it for that certain street. They don't like giving it out, but just say you bought an apartment there and now need this value to do your tax declaration and then they will tell you.
Just be sure to phone another person when you want to ask it for another street! They then subtract this "imaginary" value of the land the building stands on from your purchase price and the result is the "Pure building price".
Don't forget to make a copy of everything including your filled in, signed tax forms before you send it to them by snail mail. If you buy a apartment it can pay off to rent it out because you only own a small share of the land under the building 20 sqm in the example.
However, if you buy a house with sqm of ground, then you will have as the total "imaginary" land value a huge amount. Are you really aware of all the bureaucracy that is involved in renting out an apartment in Germany?
A tenant has a lot of rights here and it's kind of difficult to repair a broken water pipe when you're actually in Italy. Please remember a tenant has a legal right to have things repaired immediately!
If you don't jump when he says so, he will pay you less rent until you do the repair and it's absolutely legal.
It can also be difficult to get a tenant out of the apartment even if he stopped paying the rent and utilities. These things are all much more complicated if you don't live in the same city as your tenant, let alone in a different country Well, thanks a lot, don't know what else to say, this is way more detailed info than what i had intended to ask for.
I'm also under the impression that i've had given a bad impression of myself and i'm really sorry if i have. Posted 23 Nov I am going to fill form Anlage V first time for this apartment and I am wondering if I can include my travel ,accommodation and other expenses ,related to "viewing-buying" process.
I know I can include notary and agent fees to line 37, but not sure about rest of expenses. Posted 24 Nov In line 37 you would only put notary costs related to the loan.
All other costs related to the buying process including notary and agent are part of your "Anschaffungskosten" purchase cost. The correct differentiation between notary cost in case 1 and 2 might not be so easy.
A case for a paid professional maybe? They will be amortized over a certain amount of years. After further inquiry I came to know that the class VI is when you get salary from two different company.
Then I recalled, I switched my job on Which means I received 2 pay slips in the month of January. But finanzamt is saying the tax is not sufficient and I have to pay the balance.
There are further deduction for social security and solitary tax as well on this gross amount. This tax amount seems very low but someone told be that there is possibility of reduced tax deduction but I am not sure how is it applicable and how much is it.
Can someone please help to confirm this statement and give pointers where can I find more information. In a tax return, your total taxable income that year gets added up, and they then look up the income tax that's due on it in the taxation table, in your case, in the tax table for single people, the Grundtabelle: There is a possibility of reduced tax called Fünftelregelung for things like a compensation that you get for having been fired, but not for paid out holiday days.
Thanks PandaMunich for your reply. Your calculation matches perfectly to the amount Finanzamt is saying. So I have to pay Euro.
I have transferred the money to their account on monthly basis but they both are living with their son and daughter in law.
So, I am not sure whether finanzamt will approve my application or not. I really appreciate your help and Kudos to your knowledge towards German Tax.
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